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fatman12342 · Oct 05, 2007, 08:12 PM // 20:12

what is the best motherboard that has PCI-E can i but for cheap? my procssor is

Processor:
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6700 @ 2.66GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.7GHz(took it off xfire.com)also if i get a pci-e will it have a agp still cause i wouldent be able to get a pci-e card right away unless i can get both things for under $130

eggrolls · Oct 05, 2007, 09:10 PM // 21:10

You have a few choices:

1) A board that supports your processor with both AGP and PCI-E:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157115

2) A board with integrated graphics and PCI-E (there are plenty of these out there):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128058
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131197
etc...

3) Cheap PCI-E cards (with rebates):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130075
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130052

Personally, I'd go with #2 and deal with integrated graphics until you save up for a better video card. Or you can get one of those cheap graphics cards. The 7600GS is a bit better, but it's $65 versus $40 for the 7300GT.

lordpwn · Oct 05, 2007, 09:15 PM // 21:15

You have a Core 2 Duo 6700+ and you aren't willing to spend more than $130 on a new motherboard AND a PCI-E video card? Think about what you're doing. That CPU will go to waste with anything less than a GeForce 7900 or a Radeon X1950.

Tachyon · Oct 05, 2007, 09:28 PM // 21:28

How the hell do you expect to get a Motherboard and graphics Card for £65? That won't even get you the Motherboard, let alone a card.

fatman12342 · Oct 05, 2007, 09:35 PM // 21:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azagoth

How the hell do you expect to get a Motherboard and graphics Card for £65? That won't even get you the Motherboard, let alone a card.

actual i can get both i dont care anything is better then my shit and

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128058
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130075
are exactly $130 and if your wondering how i could aford the procssor i couldent my dad works at intel and every year he gets a free processor if he wants to get one so he got me a duel core

is that a good deal for $130? my current card is a Radeon X1300 XGE would the 7600 be worse or better? if its just a little worse it dosent matter as long as i get an pci thats really what i want right till i can aford a good card i wont be getting and games with good graphics really so it dosent matter

and does the 7600 support sharder modle 3.0?

and where did you get $91?(65 euros)i said $130

lordpwn · Oct 05, 2007, 10:19 PM // 22:19

I think he said £65 (pounds), not 65 €.

The 7600 GS supports Shader Model 3.0, but it's probably too slow to run any game that makes extensive use of it - unless you like playing at 800x600 and with blurry textures & no AA/AF. I've seen worse deals, though.

fatman12342 · Oct 05, 2007, 10:22 PM // 22:22

well is there anything else i can get for cheap? its better then the x1300

and i can run crysis fine and you said the 7600 was better

lordpwn · Oct 05, 2007, 10:29 PM // 22:29

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Originally Posted by fatman12342

and i can run crysis fine and you said the 7600 was better

How the hell do you know how Crysis runs on your computer? Even the demo isn't out yet.

fatman12342 · Oct 05, 2007, 10:30 PM // 22:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordpwn

How the hell do you know how Crysis runs on your computer? Even the demo isn't out yet.

fileplanet CB

http://www.fileplanet.com/
right on the front page

lordpwn · Oct 05, 2007, 10:55 PM // 22:55

Ah, ok. Didn't know there was a beta out. Still, if you claim it runs just "fine" clearly our definitions of "fine" differ somewhat.

I looked up the specs - the 7600GS has 12 pixel shader and 5 vertex shader units, while the X1300 has 4 pixel shader and 2 vertex shader units. I think the 7600GS should be quite a bit faster than the X1300 (overclocked or not) in any new, shader-heavy games. Still not very fast compared to stuff like the GeForce 7950 or Radeon X1950 (or the GF 8800GTS

), but I don't think you can find anything better at your price range.

fatman12342 · Oct 05, 2007, 10:59 PM // 22:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordpwn

Ah, ok. Didn't know there was a beta out. Still, if you claim it runs just "fine" clearly our definitions of "fine" differ somewhat.

I looked up the specs - the 7600GS has 12 pixel shader and 5 vertex shader units, while the X1300 has 4 pixel shader and 2 vertex shader units. I think the 7600GS should be quite a bit faster than the X1300 (overclocked or not) in any new, shader-heavy games. Still not very fast compared to stuff like the GeForce 7950 or Radeon X1950 (or the GF 8800GTS

), but I don't think you can find anything better at your price range.

so then i will get a the mobo and card ty for helping me i cant wait till december cause i will be 15 and i will hopyful be able to get a job and get a 8800

and wont the fact its a pci-e also make it faster?

lordpwn · Oct 05, 2007, 11:07 PM // 23:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatman12342

and wont the fact its a pci-e also make it faster?

It's still just barely a midrange card - it's probably too busy choking on its own limited internal bandwidth and other cost-cutting measures to benefit from the faster I/O speeds offered by PCI Express.

You're going to love that GeForce 8800, by the way.

fatman12342 · Oct 05, 2007, 11:45 PM // 23:45

ya i know my brother has one and another card im not sure which that one is

one more question what dose it mean by chipset?

Chipsets
North Bridge Intel 945GC
South Bridge Intel ICH7

as long as i got a intel core 2 it will work with any socket 775 board right?

also does fedex ship on weekends i would ask my mom but she isnt awake.because if it does i will get the parts monday(im ordering tommarow)or if they dont and i order tommarow when will it get here?

Horuku · Oct 06, 2007, 12:23 AM // 00:23

Generally companies DO NOT deliver on weekends, which sucks when all your stuff is sitting in a warehouse 10 minutes away lol. Yes your CPU will fit in a 775 board. The chipset has to do with motherboard specification. Generally speaking, it deals with what the motherboard supports. For instance the P35 chipsets support intels next generation of CPUs that are going to be 45nm.

Here is a cheap but great P35 chipset:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128059

Little bit more expensive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128050

This is the one I got because it supports DDR3 memory:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128048

You might as well spend a little bit extra on your mobo than other parts because it is a very VITAL component.

fatman12342 · Oct 06, 2007, 12:25 AM // 00:25

I cant aford any of that right now im just gonna get the $55 one for now when im old enough to get a job i can get a better one

Horuku · Oct 06, 2007, 12:35 AM // 00:35

Fine, but that video card won't play modern games worth a crap.

fatman12342 · Oct 06, 2007, 12:37 AM // 00:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horuku

Fine, but that video card won't play modern games worth a crap.

yes it will i can play crysis fine on a radeon x1300
and not every one has alot of money you know i cant aford a better one till im old enough to get a job

one last question are these cards the same?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130075
http://shop4.outpost.com/product/515...H:MAIN_RSLT_PG

becasue the boxs are the same but the card looks way diffrent

err there not the one the same one at frys is 140 so i will get that off newegg but the mobo at frys http://shop4.outpost.com/product/537...H:MAIN_RSLT_PG
its the exact same price but without shipping so i will save some money
which actual works out best because my dad is home tommarow so i wont **** up my processor cause i dont know how to switch that out i can switch videocards out fine

Horuku · Oct 06, 2007, 12:43 AM // 00:43

They are the same cards. And I doubt you run crysis "fine" on a x1300. If by "fine" you mean Half-Life 1 quality, then that's just stupid. I used to have a 7600go in a laptop and it got less than 30fps on medium settings with company of heros. If you really think a 7600 will play crysis, then have fun with your delusion.

fatman12342 · Oct 06, 2007, 12:52 AM // 00:52

I can play crysis fine on a x1300 with lowest settings and oblivion with meduim and be fine please shut the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO up like i said i dont have money damn im only 14 its not easy to find a job and at 15 its not gonna be easy but i will still try and then i can upgrade to an 8800 or like 8900 or what ever is out them

Tachyon · Oct 06, 2007, 01:55 AM // 01:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatman12342

and where did you get $91?(65 euros)i said $130

Do what now? I deal in real money, not the Mickey Mouse Euro! $130 = £65, the question should be "Where did you pull the Euros from?". You stated $130 in your original post, which is £65, no-one even mentioned the Euro!

I'm sorry, but if you can't even do a simple currency conversion, let alone know what a good motherboard/Graphics Card combo is then I'd suggest you stay away from buying them! At least get someone who knows what they're on about to do it.

Just for the record, how can you play Crysis on that shitty card when Crysis isn't even released yet? If you mean the demo, then I still call bullshit because quite frankly I think you're lying!